Don't you know that Hong Kong has refused to pass Article 23 to the Basic Law, which HK government proposed in 2002. Macao immediately approved a similar version, also called Article 23. Still Macao REMAINS outside the Great Fire Wall of China.
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: Your questions are very interesting.
: Don't you know that Hong Kong has refused to pass Article 23 to the Basic Law, which HK government proposed in 2002. Macao immediately approved a similar version, also called Article 23. Still Macao REMAINS outside the Great Fire Wall of China.
: 【 在 SunnyStare 的大作中提到: 】
: : 原来香港在墙外。 ^_^
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【 在 SunnyStare (一脑袋糨子) 的大作中提到: 】
: 23条的事，听说了一点。不过我觉得党国不像那么遵纪守法的，法要是管用，好些事也不能这么混账不是。就说墙的事，管你法怎么说，就把香港也围进去，香港能造反不？就算造反，还有终极武器“枪杆子里出政权”呢。
: 所以，香港是怎么挺住的呢？
: 【 在 choi (choi) 的大作中提到: 】
: : Your questions are very interesting.
: : Don't you know that Hong Kong has refused to pass Article 23 to the Basic Law, which HK government proposed in 2002. Macao immediately approved a similar version, also called Article 23. Still Macao REMAINS outside the Great Fire Wall of China.
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I am puzzled about recent developments in Hong Kong. I do not understand what they are quarreling, about high-speed rail, about legislators resigning. Perhaps they know what is going on. But I have no time for Hong Kong--and its development is not vital to me--or Taiwan from where I am (in US). Perhaps Taiwan's interests are closely linked with HK, but I am not there (in Taiwan).
I am puzzled about recent developments in Hong Kong. I do not understand what they are quarreling, about high-speed rail, about legislators resigning. Perhaps they know what is going on. But I have no time for Hong Kong--and its development is not vital to me--or Taiwan from where I am (in US). Perhaps Taiwan's interests are closely linked with HK, but I am not there (in Taiwan).
Finally a report in New York Times crystalizes the issues for me.
The reports are in chronological order.
(1) I was puzzled particularly about why younger and older people in Hong Kong seemed at logger head. What caused the generation gap, if the reports were believable?
(d) 香港高铁预算在抗议争议声中通过. BBC Chinese, Jan. 17, 2010.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/simp/china/2010/01/100117_hk_legco_fastrail.shtml
(e) 美领馆曾打探港泛民“五区总辞.” BBC Chinese, Jan. 27, 2010.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/simp/china/2010/01/100127_hongkong_byelection.shtml
Of hand I cannot find the report that said the youngsters and old people fought (figuratively) in this high-speed rail project, although I remember it is one of the above.
American Institute in Taiwan (AIT) often meets with Taiwanese government and opposition, especilaly after Taiwan was democratized. But US meeting with Hong Kong might invite speculation, which should even rarer in mainland China.
(2) Keith Bradsher, As Hong Kong’s Political System Stalls, So Does Its Democracy Movement. New York Times, Jabn. 28, 2010.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/28/world/asia/28hong.html?scp=2&sq=hong%20kong&st=cse
(Because Basic Law effectively confers power to elites, voice of young people ca not be heard. "Young people have borne the brunt of [high unemployment resulting from] competition from low-salaried employees in mainland China. They face rising competition for jobs in Hong Kong itself as banks and other high-paying employers increasingly hire mainland college graduates with family connections in Beijing.")
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: I am puzzled about recent developments in Hong Kong. I do not understand what they are quarreling, about high-speed rail, about legislators resigning. Perhaps they know what is going on. But I have no time for Hong Kong--and its development is not vital to me--or Taiwan from where I am (in US). Perh
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In my previous posting (attached below), "Of hand" shoul dbe "off hand."
I double checked, and none of the reports in (1) explicitly said it was younger generation vs. older generation.
But I had read the following by then.
Protest in Hong Kong | On track for confrontation; China for once does Hong Kong’s democrats a favour. Economist, Jan. 21, 2010.
http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15331161
("Protesters organised by means of texting, Twitter and Facebook. On January 1st thousands of the same “post-80s” generation had marched in support of universal suffrage. * * * It was this undemocratic set-up, rather than the improved connection to the mainland’s railways, that had stoked anger.")
Another report about "post-80s" generation:
Scarlett Chiang, `Post-80s' the generation of gloom. The Standard 英文虎報 (Hong Kong), Jan,. 18, 2010.
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=30&art_id=93224&sid=26735119&con_type=1
【 在 choi 的大作中提到: 】
: Finally a report in New York Times crystalizes the issues for me.
: The reports are in chronological order.
: (1) I was puzzled particularly about why younger and older people in Hong Kong seemed at logger head. What caused the generation gap, if the reports were believable?
: (以下引言省略...)