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闾丘露薇:谁在说谎?

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曼谷恢复平静了,最新消息,他信的妹妹和她的女儿在今天早上飞去了新加坡,而在9号,他信的前妻,女儿儿子,还有妹夫都离开了泰国,当时就有猜测,他信这一次,应该会孤注一掷。泰国政府刚刚发出了对他信和另外十三个红衫军组织者的拘捕令,控告他们煽动公众破坏和非法集会。

在总理府门外的红衫军集会,到今天已经差不多二十天了,八号之前,在总理府外每天晚上都会有大约三万人,他信会发表电视讲话,不过这样的事情成不了国际新闻,直到七号阿披实和他的内阁在帕塔亚的酒店被围,车子被砸,加上八号十多万人的大集会,外电才开始关注,车子被砸的画面也是差不多第二天了,外电才向泰国当地的电视台取得之后发放。九号,部分红衫军封锁曼谷交通要道,造成曼谷交通瘫痪,而阿披实在星期天宣布曼谷进入紧急状态的时候,也宣布从那天开始,红衫军的集会属于非法。

刚刚看完他信在13号晚上接受cnn访问的视频,他指责军队说谎,发射的是真的子弹,打死了很多人。同样在军人开枪之后,也有红衫军向媒体表示,看到有人被打死,而尸体则被转移了。在被问到,示威也要遵守法律,而他自己本身就是一个贪污犯,如何让泰国民众相信他的时候,他没有直接回应,而是解释,他之所以被判有罪,是因为那些人都是他的政敌。

(视频http://www.nationmultimedia.com/specials/nationvdo/showvdo.php?id=2120&name=News&cateid=13)

在报道这样的新闻的时候,媒体必须要做的是平衡。因为阿披实没有同意接受访问,cnn访问了他的发言人。而在他信的采访播出之后,阿披实呼吁泰国的媒体人,把自己看到的真实情况,告诉自己的外国同行。军方发言人也表示,所有的军人的行动,都有摄影记者跟随,为的就是增加透明度。军人们发射的是空弹和练习弹。

到底政府和军方有没有说谎:可以根据地上散落的子弹壳进行判断,如果随军的记者不是军方指定的,那他们的记录当然是最好的证明。当然还有那些收治伤者的医院,还有死难者的家属,毕竟这不是一个,说了真话会坐牢的国家。说到媒体,十三号晚上,聚集在总理府外的红衫军,已经把集会区内的记者们赶走了,理由是:报道不公平,无法保证记者们的安全。

政府公布的数字,二人死亡,是在红衫军从一个市场搬出流动小贩的售货车,和他们发生冲突的民众。原本只是军人和红衫军之间的角力,很快波及到了普通民众,这是因为红衫军劫持了一辆为住宅送气的煤气车,停在了一座住宅大楼前面,并且释放了一些媒体,要挟军人撤退。政府呼吁居民疏散,担心气体爆炸,反而是一些居民自动站在军人前面组成了人墙,要求红衫军撤退。

就在军人包围了总理府,要对最后的这一千多人清场的时候,红衫军的组织者宣布结束抗争。他们的理由,不是认输,而是为了保护示威者的生命安全。不知道这样的决定,到底是在现场的组织者自己做出的,还是在背后指挥的他信。如果是他信,那他还算有良心,没有一方面自己过着舒适的生活,一方面却在鼓动无辜民众付出生命和鲜血,去为自己谋取政治利益上讨价还价的筹码。如果是前者,佩服他们愿意牺牲“胜利”的勇气。

很多人觉得,泰国的这场纷争,做出了一个劣质民主的榜样,因为付出代价的是泰国的声誉,还有泰国的经济,但是凡事都是有两个方面的,这样一个大家期待,但却又不太抱希望能够出现的结局,显示对立的两方,克制的军方,还有最终选择妥协的红衫军,其实存在着一些共同遵循的好的原则,而要让泰国的民主进程因为这次,而向前走,而不是继续打转,需要的是求同存异。

刚刚听完阿披实稍早前接受国外媒体的访问,他说,法律允许的示威集会政府不会干预,同时他也会尝试和反对派更多的沟通和合作,对中底层的民众再教育,就业等方面加大投入。这也应该包括在红衫军的胜利当中吧?
(音频全文http://www.nationmultimedia.com/specials/nationvdo/showvdo.php?id=2119&name=News&cateid=13)


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闾丘露薇真是谎言大师

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: 曼谷恢复平静了,最新消息,他信的妹妹和她的女儿在今天早上飞去了新加坡,而在9号,他信的前妻,女儿儿子,
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闾丘露薇总是站在谎言和强权一边。这个狗奴才。 http://tinyurl.com/cljyp7

http://www.my1510.cn/article.php?id=b3a32d42681157f6
谁在说谎? / 闾丘露薇

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9135778096854192577
Thaksin Shinawatra interview in Singapore - 08:30  - Feb 12, 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPx2alOUdcA
Coup leader

对照看看他信的访谈和这个政变将军的访谈,就足以看出谁在说谎,政变所代表的专制主义右派们的谎言技巧是一样的。

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1dwl9xIrZw
Hi Thaksin

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=s1dwl9xIrZw&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3Ds1dwl9xIrZw

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mumujack (2 years ago)
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I Love Thaksin
I dont care Fuck a rebel army ..
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jitruksing (2 years ago)
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I love PM Thaksin
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toitoy4t (2 years ago)
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I love PM Thaksin.
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enu99 (2 years ago)
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count on me. PM Thaksin.
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masaki2 (2 years ago)
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the only Thai PM in my heart
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sun231219 (2 years ago)
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You are my Thailand Priminister still. You came from the democracy system. I need democracy.
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sun231219 (2 years ago)
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You are Thailand Priminister still. You came from democracy system.
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zutees (2 years ago)
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My Best Priminister forever
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sanssome (2 years ago)
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I've traveled to Thailand several times in the past. It's bizarre and surreal to see a former prime minister of the country talking to youtube viewers from an unknown location - hotel room(?).
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anonpl (2 years ago)
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Best Thai Prim Minister ever!
Wish you well, my PM Thaksin ..
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tauruserz (2 years ago)
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Love You... Man!!!
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our family love thaksin , you are the best PM. ... fr:(nilkuha)
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ThailandFocus (2 years ago)
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the best thai pm
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PM Thaksin is forever in my heart.
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You will always be in our hearts forever...our dear PM Thaksin Shinawatra.
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piyaman (2 years ago)
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I totally agreed with all of the comments. He is the rightgest person to be a PM of Thailand!!! refering to "Majority of the people of Thailand."
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bigcloset (2 years ago)
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love u ka!
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drivin98 (2 years ago)
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I hope Thailand can regain their democracy soon. These wonderful people don't deserve military rule.
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kumn812 (2 years ago)
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The best priminister til now and forever
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donvetobryan (2 years ago)
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thaksin is the great man as thailand had the priminister. i hope you will come back thailand in soon. and you will be great again. i know. good luck.
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lukygirl314 (2 years ago)
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Thank you Priminister :)
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Gerrard8LFC (2 years ago)
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this is just weird. i cannot believe that it is thakskin
how things have changed - its just a good thing that you did not buy liverpool in 04
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Korat (2 years ago)
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With the Military in force there will not be democracy system. Looking at the way the military handling thing .. Laughing till my jaw drop.
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sutheesoft (2 years ago)
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blocked web hi-thaksin, i think youtube will block soon.
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kcohsebutuoy (2 years ago)
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The coup d'etat was seemed to be based on the natural right of the people to determine their own fate. If it was so, the movement occured in Thailand was more like democratic.
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yamasaer (2 years ago)
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We thailand people LOVE thaksin
NO military !
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bonnydonna (2 years ago)
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Elected, rightful, loved and the best leader of Thailand.
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aim3tti (2 years ago)
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Didn't this ousted PM stole tons of money? Fill me in please, we only get CNN here =_=
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inner88 (2 years ago)
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With the military power on their side, they can force anything to be as they please in Thailand. It's not important whether it's true or not about Thaksin's corruption. They just force people to thing that they are the true heroes and everything Thaksin has done is awful. The worst thing is they never truly care for people's benefit. All they care is about their own selfishness and vengefulness.
Fuck those moron military dictator and the gang.
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supahome (2 years ago)
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military coup is the silly thing I have ever heard and it 's the worst that happened in my country
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zalamatoz666 (2 years ago)
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This guy is the best thing the ever happened to thailand.
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mikewut (2 years ago)
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every politician in thailand has other interests in mind .. including thaksin
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Singtoh (2 years ago)
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I have just returned from Bangkok. My last visit was over 18 months ago. I must say that the signs of Thaksin's administration are so strong and still apparent in the great improvements to both general social standing as well as in infrastructure. Stronger and more lasting improvements than I have seen in any other administrations! It is a tragic repeat of history that envy, misguided politics and religion should lead once again to regression. Do we never learn!
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khajochi (2 years ago)
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We waiting for you to come , you are the best PM ever in thailand. hope you enjoy ur life there krub. : )
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ckate1 (2 years ago)
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I do not love or hate this former-PM but I think he has done so many development to Thailand. Thais or foriegn countries, we know that. What about other people who only do the talking, protesting, or againt him? Have they done any development for Thai people or this country? Is there anything better than when Taksin was the PM? I haven't seen anything "BETTER" really!
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pnbpss (2 years ago)
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We're waiting your coming back.
bps' family
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84247258424 (2 years ago)
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Thailand looks more like Burma eveyday, no democracy. ThaiRakThai
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libreboso (2 years ago)
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i think this is the reason why youtube was blocked in thailand three days ago because of this feed.
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PONGNING (2 years ago)
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I STAND MY PM. IN MY HEART.
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Joaoofkongton (2 years ago)
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If you come back to Thailand,I believe that many people will welcome you. Do not care about a little group of people and other parties who cannot gain advantage. Thai people alway response the election because PM is from the majority voice of THAI people. Thaksin won the election, why some of people said that a little group of people love Thaksin. I think everyone can understand the election process. Majority voice from everyone in the country elect Thaksin to be Thai government.
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phakam (2 years ago)
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Miss you and want you come back soon...

From Kon Thai
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minomushiAEY (2 years ago)
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WOW unbelievable, I posted my comment few hours ago and now it is disappeared! I don't use a bad word and i am not spam. I wonder why my comment is deleted. Clearly someone monitors it and want to select only what Thaksin wants to hear. This is not a PR, but a propagada campaign!
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bootocoup (2 years ago)
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So funny! How does it feel to have censorship work both ways. Do you think it ok for just the Thai Military Junta to impose censorship or revenge on anything related to Thaksin?
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jmiyano (2 years ago)
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yes, i agree that we should not have any censorship. so if you think the Thai government now is doing something wrong, why goes to the same path. Why don't post all comments people really feel. This should be an open platform. We are educated people here!
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sushishizu (2 years ago)
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he was the priminister who did a lot of development but also the most corruption!
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chartchai19 (2 years ago)
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best prime minister in thailand.
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Kikkai1985 (2 years ago)
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I 'm glad that you still care us
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147059 (2 years ago)
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you are the best Priminister that thailand have never been before.
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B0RNfree (2 years ago)
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Hi, my ethnic is Thai, nationality is American. I visit Thailand almost every year, you did so much for the poor with your great social programs. I saw improve roads, your rice buying programs, low intrest loans for the poor, health clinic in every town and villiage. Sondhi Limthongkul is full of propaganda and made up so many false accusation about you, some of it was so absurd such as that you are planning to over throw the monarchy, smashing the Phra Phrom Erawan so you can bring evil.
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yesyea (2 years ago)
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You were (and still are in my heart) the best PM Thailand ever had!
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gemidise (2 years ago)
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You have done a good job for Thailand as a whole. Building good economy, helping the poors, attract investors to the country and improve living standards to the people. Now all your efforts has gone down the drain. Look at what has happen now ?? Where's the result and what have they contributed ?? ALL IN A MESS ... Anyway, wish you all the best in your future career.
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Koxe98 (2 years ago)
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I am thairakthai member. Hope you come back soon. goodluck
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147059 (2 years ago)
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We pray for you and your family to fine happiness every
day and night. I have bigboon to offer to you on april
22 2007 .I belive this merit to bring back the good things to you and your family again.
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blackmcdonald (2 years ago)
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I used to cheer up Mr. Thaksin but I have changed my mind a year ago. It was true that he did many developments to Thailand, however, his administration got a problem
because no one could be able to investigate his government at all. He is the one who causes Thais lost collaboration. We may have many opinions but conflicts should not occurs.
That is the main reason why Coup D'etat happened.
Please everyone do not just wait for only one guy.
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kilua00111 (2 years ago)
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ur the best
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deer2521 (2 years ago)
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Hello Mr. Thaksin, I really like you. I am in america now. I didn't get to see the news that much. So, I'm not so sure what was the situation in your case. I would like to see you write a book about your life and the true. I want to hear it from you. Good luck.
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Wuchangyu (2 years ago)
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Su SU kaaaa !!
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deer2521 (1 year ago)
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Hi yippybear, Thanks for the information. The true is I would like him to tell me the true by himself because there are a lot of messages that can not be trust.
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hotaruk (1 year ago)
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cheer up mr.Thaksin! i feel really sorry for thai people...they dont even know whats bad or good...look at the country now!!! communism???
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hugkiesyoo (1 year ago)
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you are the best!
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irybest (1 year ago)
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You will always on my mind. Cheer up na ka. I never love other PM like i do for you.
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Boyzkung (1 year ago)
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ทักษิน สู้ๆๆ เกลียดพวกทหารโว้ย
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878413 (1 year ago)
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You are the best PM that I had been met during the past 15 yrs, now u have a very hard time I hope u can solve yr problems asap, yr people waiting for u come back, it is not fair the government ban u everything, yr people cannot hear from you, they only judge everything by their own side, it is very horrible and dangerous, I support u all the time.....
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deemaak (1 year ago)
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Thaksin, you are the best thing that ever happen to Thailand and Thai people. I love you. You are the best!!
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mermonson (1 year ago)
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Like someone once said,"Justice cannot be for one side alone,but must be for both." That's why I've never believe in this coup.
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ttingnang (1 year ago)
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Thaksin Forever!
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chefprang (1 year ago)
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I hope you fine.
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thaisoldier (1 year ago)
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thaskin i stand with in you!
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lordvoldermort11 (1 year ago)
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I hate the Soldier government in Thailand so much.
Now I stand with you PM.Thaksin I hope ypu fine and comes back to Thailand soon.
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Ubon94 (1 year ago)
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Thaksin is the best one so far...
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AltleMissBkk (1 year ago)
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long live democracy !!! long live thaksin we want you in thailand.
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AltleMissBkk (1 year ago)
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long live democracy!!down with dictator!!! down with the monkey general who bend on destroy the country..long live thaksin long live democracy..
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minnithit (1 year ago)
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tuksin kub กลับมาเหอะ มาสู้กับพวกเขา
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DVX999 (1 year ago)
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yea
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tinnapopy (1 year ago)
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there is no bright future for thailand without thaksin..
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wekkgg (1 year ago)
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คลิปนี้หรือป่าว
ที่แมร่งปล่อยข่าว ว่าจะยุบพรรคพลังประชาชน
ไอ้พวกลิ่วล้อเผด็จการ
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zalamatoz (1 year ago)
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taksin is the best thing to thailand and thai people push him away. Thailand is suffering bad the thai baht is down unemployment is high the situation is thailand is horrible drug is back.
Taksin need to be back in thailand..!!
Thai people need u.!
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kilua00111 (1 year ago)
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u the best! :)
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kilua00111 (1 year ago)
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Su SU kaaaa !!
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FilmStudio77 (1 year ago)
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I like you and never hate you. You're good.
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adachio (1 year ago)
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you are the best Thaksin!!!
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ynot1688 (1 year ago)
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I hope everyone can look back into the history of Thailand. Which P.M. had ever done so much for the country's development, the economics, and to the citizens of Thailand.

Thaksin is the best P.M. in the history of Thailand and will be known as the legend.
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bomzaiya (11 months ago)
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He was the best for those you said. He is also the best of the BAD! He is trying to take control all country. I think you will understand what I mean.
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amasterofmagic (11 months ago)
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Yes! He is very bad. He took a lot money out of Thailand.
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BerriezJuiciiiz (9 months ago)
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ค่ะ เข้าใจอย่างแรง
เข้าใจลึกซึ้งเลยค่ะ
เหอๆๆ
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Srichiangmai123 (1 year ago)
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You are #1 PM Thu we love you please take care your self and your family.
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jupjup10 (1 year ago)
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You are the best for Thailand.
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geegeebear (10 months ago)
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All the best..XXX
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มาสอนผมน่ะครับ ชอบคุณน้ามาต้องนานแล้วครับ

http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/2008/04/28/httphi-thaksinnet/
http://hi-thaksin.net/
April 28th, 2008 by Nicholas Farrelly · 10 Comments

In the next day or so the world’s most famous pro-Thaksin website is shutting down (it even has a countdown timer!).  This site, hi-thaksin.net, has, regular readers might recall, been discussed from time-to-time here.  In its last 48 hours online it is broadcasting a video presentation of the past couple of years of Thai politics.  This video provides a handy visual summary of much that has been the subject of debate over the years on New Mandala.

There is also a long, and apparently final, statement that contextualises the website’s mission.  Is this a case of mission accomplished?  Or only in the George Bush, on the aircraft carrier, not quite victory, the war continues, sense of “mission accomplished”?

Thoughts from readers are, of course, very welcome here.

[And, before I forget, anyone hoping to one day write a history of the past few years in Thailand would do well to capture this website for posterity.  In its day, it certainly had some of the most interesting (and perhaps important) material available online.  Now that it is going offline (and has already taken down most of its content) who knows how much of its material will be available in the years to come.  Worth a look, and perhaps some effort, for anyone who is that way inclined...]

Update 30 April 2008: As of this morning, UK time, hi-thaksin.net is no more: “the page cannot be displayed”.  Before too long it will be de-indexed by search engines and will, I assume, disappear into the ether.  However, using tools like the “Wayback Machine” it is possible to stumble upon some of the old material.
Tags: Coup · Thaksin
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     1 Thorn // Apr 28, 2008 at 11:11 pm

     Mission seems to be far from accomplished, but it seems that this soldier is doing more harm than good to Thaksin in the present.

     It posed some articles reflecting the inherent conflict in PPP (attacking Chalerm Yoobamrung).

     It’s also the point of attack for those who want to use lèse majesté law against Thaksin (some articles contain “sensitive” content). I think this is the main reason why it has to go offline.

     I think it’s just obsolete for Thaksin. He is back to Thailand, and can communicate directly to his supporters (through Pongthep). That’s why he got rid of it.

     For the mission, I don’t think it’ll be over this year; it might goes on until they all dead. Thank god these people don’t have capable children.
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     2 Dog Lover // Apr 29, 2008 at 6:58 am

     Alas, I think Thorn is right. The war is not over. The royalists now think they are in a battle to the death, and I suspect they’ll stop at nothing. Such bloody mindedness will mean that the opponents will be equally tough. Thailand is in trouble because the royalists refuse to accept that others should have a role in determining the country’s directions.
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     3 Sidh S. // Apr 30, 2008 at 10:04 pm

     … And Ericksson gets the chop at ManCity:

     http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7372872.stm

     PMThaksin has been making very huge decisions lately from plans to dismantle the whole 2007 Constitution (predictibly meddling the the independent bodies and freeing himself and the 11o other TRT executives from political exile) and also shutting down the hi-Thaksin website. This is sending out multiple signals as he intends it to. PMThaksin is as busy as ever - and, as usual, I suggest NM closely monitor his movements if we’d like to know the fate and future of Thailand… If there’s a ‘network monarchist’ movement, they’ve lost the will and appetite (not to mention ruthlessness which PMThaksin has in abundance) long, long time ago. But we can still continue barking up the wrong tree if it makes us happy!

     My reading here is that in closing the hi-thaksin website, he is showing maturity and tactical nous. The actions of his red-shirt supporters outside Thammasat must have warned him that things can easily get out of hand if he plays the violence (or threat of violence) card. He has the number, money and influence to get what he wants through parliament and he need not give PAD and his opponents media space - one of the fatal mistake he committed last time. He is betting (and taking the right actions to ensure) that they’ll be no large street protest like last time… Once he amends the constitution, dismantles the Election Commission and Counter Corruption Commission, he will be in the clear to make a grand comeback with his unfrozen billions…

     But, with his well-known impatience (as well as unwillingness to consult and intolerance of opposing opinions) he is bound to make critical mistakes along the way. The appointment of PMSamak as his nominee (who, I am certain, will do anything to ‘be his own man’ and govern the full term. LuangPor Koon just gave a blessing that he is PM for more than 4 years which must make PMSamak a very happy old man) is already haunting him. The firing of Ericksson reflects these tendencies (the fans are happy, the players are happy, the sports pressed were impressed with Ericksson - PMThaksin is not happy as finishing top 10 in the EPL is not generating enough good PR in Thailand!!!)…
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     4 chris baker // May 1, 2008 at 1:42 am

     Thanks Sidh.

     One of the great texts of Thai politics in the past year has been the blog on the Manchester Evening News. When Thaksin bought the club, and some of the British press drew attention to the drug-war killings, corrupt sources of wealth, and dictatorial behaviour, the dominant theme of the bloggers was: we don’t care how many people he killed or fleeced in funny little Asia as long as we win games. Ah, religion! In the last few hours, the blog has gone mad. Sentiment is about 9:1 against Frank, there is a save-Sven petition, and talk of protests at the coming games. Familiar? The current thread is here Below is a sampler.

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     Lets wait until the end of the season, the guys certainly not a fool and I have a feeling he would shoot everyone else in the foot before himself.

     Thaksin will take this club the way Leeds have gone. He needs to be ousted immediately. Just when you thought things were going pretty nicely, you get this bombshell. Sven is the best manager we’ve had for ages. O.k at times his tactics and team selections have baffled us, but at least the players seem to want to play for him. what a huge step backwards for this club. I’ve finished with city now and I hope several more thousand stay away in protest next season

     Frank is a dictator over in Thailand but we as fans need to make him aware that in this country we won’t put up with a dictatorship at Manchester City,any city fan renewing there season ticket,well thats your choice but all your doing is adding fuel to the fire and saying ok Thaksin you can do what you want we will follow you like sheep

     Is there a protest being arranged outside the ground? Does any one know?

     Thaksin - almost overnight you turned our club from being a running joke (when we didn’t score at home after Xmas) into a club that was respected. You have now turned it back into a joke again - well done!

     Noel Gallagher reckons that ‘Frank’ is a bit of a nutcase. He does look a bit short of stuff upstairs, I have to admit.

     But its never been a secret that raising his OWN profile in Asia and Thailand was always on Thaksin’s agenda,…

     All the excitement, all the promise we felt gone in an instant!
     The worst fears about this man taking over our club rumbling in tandem have now become horrifically true. We now have a dictator and his familly in charge who know zilch about football and care even less about the fans or this clubs tradition. All he wants is to score political points and pave his way to acceptability in Thailand.The sooner the whole sorry lot of them go there permenantly the better and give us our club back!!

     Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT Thaksin Shinawatra OUT

     Dr Shinawatra has set his stall out now. THIS is how I’m going to run this club ladies and gentlemen. I might ask your opinion occasionally but ultimately if i want to do it…I’ll just do it. How long will it be before other members of the staff think…stuff this for a game of soldiers? If that’s how he treats someone who’s done well???

     Apart from the disgusting treatment, the sacking of Sven isn’t the main reason for concern and upset. The reason for serious concern is that the owner is interfering with decisions he shouldn’t. Regardless of the fact the Thai clown has bought the club (however with funds questionable earned) he should not and I repeat not, interfer with any managerial decisions. If he’s allowed to do that without any resistance, he will continue to do so with whichever manager we’ll have, eventually leading to no manager will be interested in the job. That is why I urge every true fan to stop naming possible successors and accepting the mess, and stand up for the manager instead.

     Thaksin has really no idea just what he’s started. He’s completely gone back on his 3 - year commitment (year1 top ten finish).

     shinawatra is a ruthless despot whose power does not take anybody elses opinion into account.MCFC is an investment. Fans should make sure it becomes a bad investment and STAY AWAY

     The club is being run on a whim, from a few thousand miles away. I have no doubt that the Board will be sacked too (i.e. Mackintosh, Bodek and Wardle) and I think that’s a good thing. They are shop keepers and we need a management structure more fitting for a supermarket chain. However, I am beginning to wonder whether Frank is a good businessman or a just a dicatator backed up by a few dodgy business deals.

     The guy is a top businessman and he expects results and when the results are not to his satisfaction he takes action, end of!!

     What do the board expect? If you drink with the devil that is what happens.
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     5 Teth // May 1, 2008 at 9:14 am

     Man City fans seem quite a fickle bunch…. Anyways, I think Thaksin and City are a match made in heaven.
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     6 jonfernquest // May 2, 2008 at 2:31 am

     I wonder if Thaksin: 1. anticipated this reaction to the firing of Sven at Manchester, or 2. didn’t anticipate it and now regrets it?

     I remember one columnist arguing that one of the secrets of Thaksin’s success was his marketing research, i.e. knowing what customers or voters want.

     Did he mess up this time or he just being the Genghis Khan he once touted himself to be?
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     7 Sidh S. // May 2, 2008 at 1:25 pm

     Wow! It is almost like 2006 all over again - just that the protestors are English/ManCity fans and not Thai/anti-Thaksinites!!! Thanks AjarnChris for the samplers - they are gems.

     Jonfernquest, I suspect that PMThaksin’s marketing research was conducted in Thailand amongst the millions of EPL fans - not England or ManCity fans (if past actions (e.g. the proposed buying of Liverpool) can be considered as evidences, he doesn’t care about ManCity, their fans - or football for that matter). This is about making instant media impact amongst Thai voters - and just the rumors of Luiz Felipe Scolari or Jose Mourinho taking over alone should generate a lot of news and excitement.

     Would this lead to a ‘coup’ at ManCity? A fans (or another rich businessman) buyout? Personally I don’t think this will happen in the immediate term - as long as ManCity is useful for Thai media promotion (think Ericksson flying over to buy three Thai players; ManCity players accompanying PMThaksin back to Thailand; and the latest stunt, PMThaksin’s name on the Thai flag) - which should be as long as PMThakin’s political exile…

     What he seems willing to risk here is exposing his ‘true’ self to the foreign media and they may eventually have less sympathy for the self-proclaimed ‘hero of Thai democracy’. I suspect that he does not care (”the UN is not my father”) - as the most powerful man in Thailand and especially once he also gets his PM post and money back… Maybe Teth’s comments on the Burmese Junta’s “shamelessness and obviousness” might even apply in Thailand then (if the past serves as evidence, especially in terms of the ‘rule of law’, ‘corruption’ and ‘human rights’).
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     8 Sidh S. // May 6, 2008 at 4:42 pm

     “Thaksin’s ‘demand’ that the players ‘wai’ him before kick-off is being seen as a dictatorship streak ” :

     http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008/05/06/headlines/headlines_30072334.php

     (can this be true?)
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     9 Sidh S. // May 17, 2008 at 9:41 pm

     Fair Play The Dr Thaksin Way
     http://football.guardian.co.uk/Fiver/0,,2279237,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=football

     How Thaksin turned from saviour to sinner in a single season
     http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/may/14/manchestercity?gusrc=rss&feed=football

     ‘สเวน’นําทัพ เรือใบถึงไทย
     http://www.thairath.co.th/news.php?section=sports&content=89834

     Interesting contrasting media coverage of PMThaksin and ManCity. A year ago, it may have been the another way round! The three Thai players Ericksson ‘bought’ will also play for ManCity too according to the news. Scolari have resisted PMThaksin’s money and now Frank Rikaard (formerly of Barcelona) is the new target so the rumour goes. The best option (for the future of the team) is to kiss and make up with Ericksson I say.

     The news that ASC’s investigations into PMThaksin’s and TRT government alleged corruption may be derailed sooner (for being ‘unconstitutional’) rather than later (through PPP’s constitution ‘amendment’) also speaks volumes about “Fair Play The Dr Thaksin Way”. It is possible that we’ll never get to see that “evidences” of corruption (that many in NM call for) - and not because there aren’t any. On the contrary, these developments points and confirms the opposite that there are probably too many cases/evidences of corruption.
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     10 Tawatchai // Apr 13, 2009 at 8:55 pm

     I once repect in you Dr. Thaksin as a smart politician. But now, what you are doing, is hazard to Thai economic, society and safety. I hope you stop to do more thing to damage Thailand. Don’t forget your children and your ex-wife still gonna lives there for a long.

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