Comparing American and Chinese Submarine Forces

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David Axe, US vs China Undersea. The Diplomat, Aug 3, 2011 (blog)
http://the-diplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2011/08/03/us-vs-china-undersea/
("Even US submarines with their highly sophisticated sensors and combat systems rely on ‘cueing’ by land-based over-the-horizon radars, satellites or high-altitude surveillance aircraft that can steer them towards their targets.")

The blog quote a report:

"China has very limited ASW [Anti-Submarine Warfare] capabilities and appears not to be making major investments to improve them.

"US submarines can currently operate freely in Chinese coastal waters.

The US has demonstrated "the ability to establish and consistently maintain significant acoustic advantages for its nuclear submarines in a competition with a peer competitor." The United States’ 55 nuclear attack subs are so quiet "that their passage at close range can actually cause a dip in noise levels because background noise is being blocked by the submarine's hull."

Note: The report:
Owen R. Cote Jr, Assessing the Undersea Balance Between the U.S. and China. MIT, February, 2011 (SSP Working Paper)
http://web.mit.edu/ssp/publications/working_papers/Undersea%20Balance%20WP11-1.pdf

* Security Studies Program
http://web.mit.edu/ssp/index.html
("The Security Studies Program at MIT is a graduate-level research and educational program based at the Center for International Studies at MIT")


----------------------------Separately
(1) Claire Courchane, Neb. Mine Find to Challenge China’s Dominance of Vital Rare Minerals. Washington Times, Aug 2, 2011
("Elk Creek, Neb. (population 112), may not be so tiny much longer. Reports suggest that the southeastern Nebraska hamlet may be sitting on the world’s largest untapped deposit of 'rare earth' minerals")

(2) Rankings Crown Taiwan as Kingdom of Spotted Grouper. China Post (Taiwpei), Aug 3, 2011
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2011/08/03/312074/Rankings-crown.htm
("ranking No. 1 in global grouper production value and No. 2 in production volume, according to statistics compiled by the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) of the United Nations" 17% of the world's total output, and 33% of world's production value)

(3) Free Preschool Education Kicks Off in Taiwan. Taiwan Today, Aug 3, 2011
http://www.taiwantoday.tw/ct.asp?xItem=173426&ctNode=445
(kindergarden for five-year-olds; "In related news, Taiwan’s outlying Kinmen County announced Aug. 2 that it will merge nurseries and kindergartens beginning 2012. Tuition for all three-year-olds will be free")

(4) Bill Gertz, China Begins to Build Its Own Aircraft Carrier; Pentagon sees Beijing flexing muscle for world. Washington Times, Aug 1, 2011
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/1/china-begins-to-build-its-own-aircraft-carrier/?page=all
("construction of the first indigenous carrier at the Changxing Island Shipyard in Shanghai. The carrier appears in satellite photos to be similar in design to the Varyag, a Soviet-era carrier purchased by China that uses a sky-jump style takeoff ramp at the front of the ship.")

Note:
(a) Changxing Island Shipyard  长兴岛造船基地
(b) The report cited
(i) China Starts Constructing Own Flattop; '2 carriers operational within 10 yrs.' Yomiuri Shimbun, July 10, 2011.
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/world/T110709003274.htm

Bill Gertz stated, "Japan’s Yomiuri Shimbun first reported the carrier development on July 10." Yomiuri mentioned just one ndigenous carrier. Reuters (see next) talks about two (indigenous carriers).
(ii) Ben Blanchard and Chris Buckley, China Defends Carrier Plans, Neighbors Fret Over Buildup
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/28/us-china-carrier-idUSTRE76Q6O420110728
("As well as refitting the old Soviet-era carrier bought from Ukraine in 1998, China is building two indigenous aircraft carriers as part of a broad modernization program, sources told Reuters on Wednesday.")

My comment:
(a) Reuters did not say if the sources were within or without China.
(b) Of note in the Reuters report: "'If the Chinese leave the west Pacific, there's only one areas they're interested in, the Indian Ocean. In that sense, competition with (India) is inevitable,' said Raja Menon, a former rear admiral in the Indian navy.

(5) 俄媒：新疆局势未控制 能源安全受威胁. VOA Chinese, Aug 3, 2011
http://www.voanews.com/chinese/news/20110803-Russian-Reaction-to-XinJiang-Attack-126657453.html
("中亚地区向中国输送石油和天然气的管道全部穿越新疆，但新疆正成为中国分离势力最活跃的地区")

(6) 日本防卫白皮书对华警惕升级. VOA Chinese, Aug 3, 2011
http://www.voanews.com/chinese/news/20110803-Japan-defense-white-paper-126654593.html
("同志社大学教授浅野亮认为，今后东海问题将与南海问题连动，美国、中国、日本和东盟，还有印度都将介入进来")

Note: Doshisha University
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doshisha_University
(同志社大学; private; Kyoto; founded in 1875 by NIIJIMA Jō 新島 襄 (1843-1890)) as Doshisha English School)

(7) 中国为日本开拓团立碑引发争议. VOA Chinese, Aug 3, 2011
http://www.voanews.com/chinese/news/20110803-Japanese-Reclamation-Corps-Memorial-126653258.html
("因长途跋涉、体力耗尽，加上传染病流行，开拓团民纷纷倒毙，死亡人数超过5000。其尸骨被方正县人民收集起来，合葬在当地的日本人公墓。后来，尽管开拓团民陆续回国，但仍有4500名妇女和儿童滞留在方正县。官员说，方正人民收养和照顾了这些日本人")

(8) 美在台协会外交官车辆涉死亡车祸. VOA Chinese, Aug 3, 2011
http://www.voanews.com/chinese/news/20110803-TAIWAN-US-DIPLOMAT-126655548.html
(美国驻台湾最高级外交官 William Stanton 的座驾)

(9) 台国防部：出售F16C/D战机符合美方利益. VOA Chinese, Aug 3, 2011
http://www.voanews.com/chinese/news/20110803-F16CD-126654423.html
(执政的国民党立委帅化民: F-16 C/D唯一选择)

My comment: The comment; Hints that Taiwan does not budge or compromise on A/B upgrading, setting up a confrontation between Washington and Beijing. There is no need to read the rest.

(10) 据报台湾电脑模拟军演全歼入侵中国军队. VOA Chinese, Aug 3, 2011.
http://www.voanews.com/chinese/news/20110803-TAIWAN-CHINA-WARGAME-126650423.html

Quote:

"包围并击败入侵台湾的10万中国军队

"报道还说，台湾军队在以往的类似电脑兵推中都被击败。这位军方消息人士认为，台湾军队成功的原因在于能在中国发动导弹袭击之初将本方战机转移到一处山区洞库，从而在随后的作战中取得空中优势

My comment: The computer games in Taiwan have always presumed Taiwan fight one-to-one with China, without intervantion of foreign forces.

(11) 美国会众议员群起呼吁售台战机. VOA Chinese, Aug 2, 2011.
http://www.voanews.com/chinese/news/20110802-TAIWAN-F-16-LETTER-126608338.html

Quote:

"181位美国联邦众议员8月1日(星期一)联合致函美国总统奥巴马;

"代表F-16制造商，洛克希德马丁公司所在地--德州的联邦参议员科宁，为了促使奥巴马政府接受台湾采购F-16C/D战机的要求，在国会阻挡国务院副国务卿提名人伯恩斯(Willian Burns)的人事任命案，经过克林顿作出明确回应后，伯恩斯才得以在28号顺利就任。



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