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发表于 7-12-2011 09:35:36 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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Joe Hung, Varyag Name -- and Military Significance -- Still Debated. Central News Agency, July 12, 2011.
http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_Detail.aspx?Type=aIPL&ID=201107120017

Note:
(a) Lan Ling-li 蘭寧利, 退役海軍中將/前海軍情報署長, who is said to be interested in legislative election next January.

蘭寧利--歷經驚濤駭浪的海軍戰將-電腦兵棋專家蘭寧利將軍; 口述歷史. 行政院國軍退除役官兵輔導委員會, Taiwan, Nov 15, 2005.
http://lov.vac.gov.tw/Oralhistory/Person.aspx?Para=16&Control=1
(b) PL-13  霹雳-13
L-83K  鹰击-83K
(c) The report says, "J-15 fighters are so heavy that they require the Varyag to have a ski-jump design on its flattop, like the American carrier that launched light bombers for the first U.S. air raid on Tokyo in 1942."

Doolittle Raid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid

I think the CNA report makes a mistake here. Doolitle Raid was launched from an aircraft carrier USS Hornet (CV-8), which was flat-top.

US has never had a ski-jump, which was a British innovation around 1980 or 1981. See
Ray Sturtivant, British naval aviation: the Fleet Air Arm, 1917-1990. Naval Insititute Press (1990), at page 203
http://books.google.com/books?id=chrZisFFtR8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=Ray+Sturtivant%22&hl=en&ei=uHgcTquzGZTogQep9ZDRCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
("However, at about this tie tests were being carried out at the Royal Aircraft Establishment at Farnborough with a so-called 'ski-jump', an upswingdeck platform which would enable Sea Harriers to undertake a fairly normal take off and thus carry a greater load of fuel and armament than if they were taking off vertically. The system was the brainchild of Lt Cdr D. R. Taylor, who had developed the theoretical concept during a year's sabatical at Southhampton Univrsity. The tests proved successful and large ramps were soon added to the forward decks of both Hermes and Invincible. The changes were made not a moment too soon, for in 1982 Britain became involved in another war * * * On 2 April 1982 Argentine forces invaded the Falkland Islands")

(d) For SA-N-9, see Tor missile system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_missile_system
(tor is Russian for torus; a surface-to-air missile system; commonly known by its NATO reporting name, SA-15 "Gauntlet"--a navalized variant was developed under the name 3K95 "Kinzhal", also known as the SA-N-9 "Gauntlet")


---------------------------------Separately
(1) Hu Yinan, Li Xiaokun and Cui Haipei, Official Confirms China Building Aircraft Carrier. China Daily, July 12, 2011
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/us/2011-07/12/content_12881772.htm

Quote:

"Just as the news came out that the Varyag will begin initial sea trials probably either late this month, in early August or later in the year, rumors arose saying that another aircraft carrier is being built in Shanghai.

"'The missile [DF-21D] is still undergoing experimental testing and will be used as a defensive weapon when it is successfully developed, not an offensive one," Chen [Bingde, chief of General Staff] said.

"It is a high-tech weapon and we face many difficulties in getting funding, advanced technologies and high-quality personnel, which are all underlying reasons why it is hard to develop this," he added.

"The steam-powered Varyag is expected to serve primarily as a training vessel for pilots and deck crews.

(2) Simon Rabinovitch, China's Satellites Cast Shadow Over US Pacific Operatios. Financial Times (FT), July 12, 2011.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cf83817a-abaa-11e0-8a64-00144feabdc0.html

My comment:
(a) Registration is required. Still I think it is worth it, because
(i) FT is the first to publish this topic (though Reuters publishes an online report which is not very imformative--and a day late); and
(ii) the report is in FT page 1, despite its pint size.
(b) If you are not willing to register, you can read a BBC sumary of teh Reuters report:
“中国的卫星技术突飞猛进.” BBC Chinese, July 12, 2011.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/simp/chinese_news/2011/07/110712_china_satellite.shtml

(3) Defeated, Defiant, Dejected And Looking For Respect; Russia. Strategy Page, July 10, 2011.
http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/russia/articles/20110710.aspx

(4) Improved IDF Pointed at China. Strategy Page, July 10, 2011
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/articles/20110710.aspx
("The improvements include better electronics, largely from the United States and the ability to carry four, instead of two, radar guided air-to-air missiles. The upgrades also include the ability to use smart bombs. It will cost about $8.3 million for each IDF upgrade.")

My comment: Nes media in Taiwan recently talked about IDF upgrades, but neglected to say where the upgrades came from.

(5) 越南改变策略 禁民众反华抗议. VOA Chinese, July 12, 2011.
http://www.voanews.com/chinese/news/20110712-vietnam-china-125419848.html

(6) 台国防部:马伦访中,不影响台美交流. VOA Chinese, July 12, 2011
http://www.voanews.com/chinese/news/20110712-taiwan-launch-anti-china-aircraft-125400693.html

(7) 台湾军方将针对中国航母进行反制演习. BBC Chinese, July 12, 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/simp/chinese_news/2011/07/110712_aircraftcarrier_byjameslin.shtml
("台湾军方在本月将进行 '汉光27号' 演习的计算机辅助指挥演练,其演练项目之一是针对中国即将成军的航空母舰进行反制")

(8) “美情局曾假借打疫苗接近本拉登.” BBC Chinese, July 12, 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/simp/world/2011/07/110712_cia_bin_laden.shtml

(9) 台湾总统府:“没发生”陆客抱总统被捕. BBC Chinese, July 12, 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/simp/chinese_news/2011/07/110712_ma_hug_xinhua.shtml
("台湾总统府对BBC中文网说,根本没发生新华社所报道的陆客因为意欲拥抱马英九而被捕调查的事件")

Note: Latest news first.
(a) 熊抱馬英九 陸客被拘?陸媒造假. 旺報, July 12, 2011
http://news.chinatimes.com/focus/11050104/112011071200105.html
("馬英九總統7日遭女性陸客熊抱,大陸新華網9日以〈馬英九遭大陸女遊客熊抱 遭台警拘捕〉為題稱該女被帶走調查,並指報導引述自台媒。兩岸媒體人因此在新浪微博掀起筆戰。總統府發言人范姜泰基直斥新華網報導不實,大呼這是不可能的事。新華網昨已修改內容。-")
(b) The revised Chinese reports:
(a) 刘海伟, 马英九主动与陆客握手 遭热情大陆女游客熊抱(图). 中国台湾网, July 9, 2011.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/tw/2011-07/09/c_121644457.htm
(b) 大陆女游客拥抱马英九被台警方带走调查(图). 环球网, July 9, 2011.
http://china.huanqiu.com/roll/2011-07/1810964.html

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发表于 7-12-2011 11:27:26 | 只看该作者

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http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6988131f0100t21t.html

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6988131f0100t3ux.html

【 在 choi (choi) 的大作中提到: 】
: I added note to (9). For your convenience, it is reporduced here.
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: (9) 台湾总统府:“没发生”陆客抱总统被捕. BBC Chinese, July 12, 2011
: http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/simp/chinese_news/2011/07/110712_ma_hug_xinhua.shtml
: ("台湾总统府对BBC中文网说,根本没发生新华社所报道的陆客因为意欲拥抱马英九而被捕调查的事件")
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 楼主| 发表于 7-13-2011 12:14:45 | 只看该作者

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I simply do not know how you can find these. Admirable.

【 在 bridged 的大作中提到: 】
: http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6988131f0100t21t.html
: http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6988131f0100t3ux.html
: 【 在 choi (choi) 的大作中提到: 】
: : I added note to (9). For your convenience, it is reporduced here.
: (以下引言省略...)

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flyingpku found these.... also admire....

【 在 choi (choi) 的大作中提到: 】
: I simply do not know how you can find these. Admirable.
: 【 在 bridged 的大作中提到: 】
: : http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6988131f0100t21t.html
: : http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6988131f0100t3ux.html
: : (以下引言省略...)
: ...................

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