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中国有没有黑社会组织?

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[<div class="EntryTools"> [<a target=_blank id="ctl00_Main_EntryForm_AuthorLink" href="http://www.bullogger.com/users/bullog/" target="_blank">赵牧[</a> [<a target=_blank> @ 2009-3-25 16:27 [</a> [<a target=_blank>评论(10)[</a> [<a target=_blank id="ctl00_Main_EntryForm_A1" href="http://www.bullogger.com/blogs/zhaomu/diggs/287100.aspx" target="_blank">推荐值(74)[</a> [<a target=_blank href="http://www.bullogger.com/blogs/zhaomu/trackbacks/287100.aspx" target="_blank">引用通告[</a> [<a target=_blank href="http://www.bullogger.com/blogs/zhaomu/?cat=%e6%97%b6%e6%94%bf%e6%b0%91%e7%94%9f">分类: 时政民生[</a> [</div>
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中国究竟有没有黑社会组织?
     总感觉这是个弱智的问题。不过就像中国人经常要被迫面对的许多弱智问题一样——诸如“权大还是法大”,至今我也没能摆脱它。
      N年前,大概是90年代末吧,应中青报评论部朋友之约,写了一篇与“黑社会”有关的文章,后来朋友反馈说,对中国到底有没有黑社会组织,看法不一致,我的看法很不“主流” [<a target=_blank href="http://js3.pp.sohu.com.cn/ppp/images/emotion/base/spit.gif" target="_blank">[<img src="http://js3.pp.sohu.com.cn/ppp/images/emotion/base/spit.gif" border="0" onload="con_resize(this);">[</a>
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     今天新闻说,武昌余家头发生一起勒索事件:一物流[<a target=_blank href="http://news.163.com/09/0325/05/557P7FMJ00011229.html">公司拒交20万保护费遭40余男子弩枪扫射(图)[</a> 墙上都是“枪眼”,看罢便搜索余家头这个地方,一看竟是很繁华的地区(见上面的卫星地图)。于是又想起“中国究竟有没有黑社会组织”这个问题来。
     有意思的是,虽然中国官方一向回避界定中国是否有西方意义上的黑社会组织的问题,但中国的媒体却经常使用“黑社会”一词来描述许多人物或事件。
     2001年年初,在沈阳作恶多年的刘涌(还是沈阳人大代表)被捕,媒体一概都是以“黑社会头目”来定义刘涌的。滑稽的是,刘涌的干爹刘实——这个因慕马案暴发也被逮捕的前沈阳市检察院院长,在法庭上还这样辩称,自己不知道刘涌是“黑社会”(见[<a target=_blank href="http://www.hcjjw.gov.cn/jjcm/openarticle.asp?id=3" target="_blank">被告席上的检察长[</a>)。
     类似的例子很多,不用详举,诸如90年代初横行东北的“乔四”;这么多年在中国有组织的拐卖妇幼的团伙;在中国已经存在多年的贩毒集团,常年累月在火车长途汽车上洗劫乘客的犯罪团伙等等,媒体报道这些事件时,几乎都习惯性地用“黑社会”这个概念来描述的。
我对这一切都并不惊奇,也不认为官方回避界定中国是否有黑社会组织有多么奇怪,因为媒体所描述的中国各种涉黑事件,的确就像刘涌案那样,不但无法与“沈阳的白社会”剥离干净,它们简直就是孪生兄弟骨肉相连嘛。所以出现了这样的文章《中国已经出现真正意义的黑社会》(2001年)文章,按那文章的说法——黑社会基本能够“民营”了,不必非得戴顶“红帽子”了,这倒会让我惊奇,当年读这篇文章时,我确实惊讶了一下。
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[<div class="CommentBody"> 操,我们都知道,这个问题标准答案是:某党! [</div>
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[<div class="CommentBody"> 中国有全世界最大的黑社会组织。 [</div>
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[<div class="CommentBody"> “检察院院长”…… [</div>
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[<div class="CommentBody"> 全球最大的黑社会不是明摆着的吗,还用问? [</div>
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[<div class="CommentTitle"> [<div id="ctl00_Main_CommentList1_CommentListView_ctrl4_MenuLabel" class="ContextMenuTarget"> [匿名] zhgswa [65.49.2.*] @ 2009-3-25 21:56:28 [</div>
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[<div class="CommentBody"> 诸位看官只要思考《应该叫回忆》下49年前、的“中共苏维埃”或者“江西瑞金”就知道
更不要看当下。只是大小问题,从来就有。 [</div>
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[<div class="CommentBody"> 检察院的不是院长 [</div>
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[<div class="CommentBody"> 都是混蛋 [</div>
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[<div class="CommentBody"> 黑社会根据规模大小,一般这样分:
最小的,称为“流氓犯罪团伙”;
稍大一点,称为“会、道、门”;
很大了,称为社会势力了,称为“帮”;
超级大了,有跨国犯罪业务了,称为“党”---比如黑手党。
后来有人觉得就算搞那么大,还只是伸伸黑手,实在不过瘾,
干脆!甭伸手了!
直接把你的财产全“共享”了吧!
于是,比黑手党更彻底、更绝的黑社会终极组织诞生了!
“奶奶的!老子们成立这个党,就是为了共你们的产!!!” [</div>
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[<div class="CommentBody"> 中国没有黑社会,怎么可能有黑社会呢?
总所周知的嘛,任何颜色搭配在一起都可以有不同色彩变化的可能
但是只有一个颜色除外,那就是黑色
黑色无论跟什么颜色搭配都会保持自己的特色——近黑,或者说 不同程度的灰

河蟹河蟹,只能是变红,红上加红,大红大大红
有黑社会那还了得,那不是让我们的“河蟹”没地方放置了
有黑了,就不可能有红了,那只能是灰色

看今天中国,茫茫大地一片死灰 [</div>
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[<div class="CommentTitle"> [<div id="ctl00_Main_CommentList1_CommentListView_ctrl9_MenuLabel" class="ContextMenuTarget"> [匿名] 根本不存在绝对的黑 [65.49.2.*] @ 2009-3-26 2:09:08 [</div>
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[<div class="CommentBody"> 科学告我们,不存在绝对的黑,所以黑社会的说法不科学。
正如,不存在绝对的民主,所以民主社会,或民主国家的说法不科学。
再如,不存在绝对的和谐,所以和谐社会的说法是不对的
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